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Nosveratau · Sep 08, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17

Hi All

When I first created my Guildwars character I did not really know about titles and stuff, so I have decided to create a new character to muck around with for titles. After reading some posts and guides it seems legendary survivor is the best first title to get. After reading posts it seems the two best ways to gain the exp needed for this title is either the boxing in EOTN or Kuzrik Hero Faction farming, so good stuff there, my question is what about getting my character to this point, if I am careful can getting to this point with Henchmen (New Ranger/Monk Factions Character) work, especially for the missions or even the run to the above areas, or is it advisable to get help for the missions and running to outposts?

Cheers

Nos

Sindy · Sep 08, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24

If you are careful, of course. It is very possible to get to either without dying. Boxing should be easier to get to since the heroes can help out a lot and there aren't any "missions" to get in the way. I know there are runners who can help you get to HFFF, but again, it isn't impossible to do it yourself.

Crimson Flame · Sep 08, 2008, 04:06 PM // 16:06

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Originally Posted by Sindy

If you are careful, of course. It is very possible to get to either without dying. Boxing should be easier to get to since the heroes can help out a lot and there aren't any "missions" to get in the way. I know there are runners who can help you get to HFFF, but again, it isn't impossible to do it yourself.

You can't go boxing with heroes. HFFF is probably the easiest way, and you'll make money off of it, too.

Ghengis Kwell · Sep 08, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13

I think Sindy was referring to the fact the Heros help you get TO the Boxing NOT to help with it

unkleanone · Sep 08, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47

they might help get to it but you'll still have to get to level 10 without dying on your own before you can make it to EoTN I highly recommend getting guild members to help you get to lutgardis to do hfff. Let them know that your a survivor and what not and be ready to exit the game if your about to die at any point int he missions leading up to lutgardis.

Sindy · Sep 08, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by Ghengis

I think Sindy was referring to the fact the Heros help you get TO the Boxing NOT to help with it

yes, i was. Thank you

And yes you have to get to 10, but that is crazy easy in factions. And once you are in EotN, you get buffed to level 20 until you are actually level 20. A good alternative, at any rate. But HFFF does have the advantage of once you are there, you aren't gonna die by lag or something.

Anon-e-mouse · Sep 08, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Become one with the imp.. the imp is your friend.

Flightmare · Sep 08, 2008, 05:29 PM // 17:29

I think it should be pretty good do-able with henchies and heroes. If you're not sure about some parts of the game, ask some thrustworthy friends and explain you are going for survivor.

Jae Onasi · Sep 08, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

I just got Legendary last month by farming the 10 wurms just ouside Boreal station n NM until I got to lvl 20, and then HM after that.
I ran a poison arrow/pet build.
I farmed it with Olias with a mixed minion-life stealing build and could get the run down to about 3.5 minutes. It's pretty low risk because as a ranger you're attacking at range and the wurms there have no ranged attacks. I used XP scrolls on a lot of runs, a slayer's insight scroll will mean you get 4620 xp every run with Olias in the party. That costs a lot, but the time trade-off was worth it for me. You cannot go across either of the bridges there--one bridge has aloe pop-ups that kill fast (learned that the hard way with another would-be survivor), and if you go across the bridge to the other 3 wurms, pinesols patrol that area in HM.

This is neither the cheapest nor the fastest route. HFFF is probably faster and you'll gain gold if you're not burning through xp scrolls. However, I don't have a reliable enough connection to do Killroy's punch-out, and I wanted to earn the xp myself (nothing against leechers, it just wasn't what I wanted to do), so this was a good alternative. If you do it without xp scrolls, you'll make money every run on the drops. Lockpicks, golds, map pieces, and warrior tomes drop periodically. A chest spawns nearly every run, so you'll be able to work on treasure hunter, wisdom, and unlucky titles at the same time if you don't mind spending a ton of money on breaking lockpicks.

I run missions with guild members or H/H. I never use PUG's since the coordination is not guaranteed, and some ornery soul might think it's funny to let you die. If I H/H, I have a level 20 monk in my first hero slot, and I have him hot-keyed to use protective spirit and a healing spell on me in tough spots. My ranger has all survivor insignia, a superior vigor rune, and minor ranger runes appropriate runes for my profession. I carry a sundering longbow of fortitude, and I make sure to use my Norn title, which gives a hp boost, in Norn territory. It means my energy pool isn't fabulous, but it's kept me alive in a couple tight spots. If my connection is laggy or I'm tired, I play another non-survivor character. It's too easy to make a fatal maistake when tired, and lagging out in the middle of battle can be death.

Good luck to everyone working on this title.

dilan155 · Sep 08, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05

if you have the money, pay for a survivor run, this will get you a runner that does all the missions+quests that is required to bring you to Lutgardis for HFFF. After you have done this and gotten to lvl 10 or maybe even higher, you should go over to the EotN and get to boxing from there bring scrolls and do again and again and soon(ya right) youll be legendary survivor.

Sword · Sep 08, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

definatly go HFFF

quick and easy once u get there and ull get a few tiers towards your kurzick title as well as some decent spending money

imnotyourmother · Sep 09, 2008, 02:11 PM // 14:11

WURMS. WURMS. WURMS. WOOT.

There is another WURM LS out there. kewl. I did this with my War just after the release of GE:WN. It is the BEST way to get the title with almost no chance of death. I will read what the poster above says then edit here. Just so excited to see another Wurm man.

As i suspected, a RANGED attacker. Yes doing ranged you can do this with started armor or no armor as you will take 0 damage cause the Snow Wurms are MEELE ONLY. Yes the can not kill you.

I do like the way Jae Onasi describes the hard mode deaths. There are 13 Snow Wurms to kill in Normal Mode and only 10 In Hard Mode.

The drops are better in hard mode than in normal mode. You might get lucky to get a gold with the forget me not inscription in it and sell that for 20K.

Although I am not quite sure why Jae Onasi was using Olias in tha party. Maybe for faster kills. I will try this tonight to see if the XP is changed or not.

Just a though. This would also be a KILLA of a way to lvl the Heor's up that I have from Nightfal..Hummm???

My wife has this game and she is getting to lvl 10 in preseaing and then I am running her to the Station so that she can lvl her Survivor and get the title. It is a Necro toon that she has with Mesmer as secondary. She only has NM so she should do OK if she does not get too bored. I have started another one as well and I will use it to farm the Snow Wurms. I want to try and get 10 Million Xp without a death.

I will check to see what scroll I used. I think it was the 5 minute Boss one. 175% for 594 XP solo per kill in HM. or 175xp per kill in Normal mode. I will check

Crystal Lake · Sep 10, 2008, 05:06 AM // 05:06

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Originally Posted by Quaker

Once upon a time, in a galaxy far away, the Survivor title actually meant something. You had to actually get to level 20 without dying AND while actually playing the game. Nowadays, like most titles, it means almost nothing, other than that the bearer of the title knows how to leach, HFFF, and box. Woopee!

But, whatever floats yer boat, I guess.

I am close to reaching lvl 2 on my title. I started out as a rit/monk in Factions and made it to lvl 10 just doing all of the secondary profession quests. (Careful on the Mesner quests- lots of Crimsons on the 2nd part, and always leave from the town where the henches are lvl 6).

I did get guild members to help me in some the missions because I can't risk logging out if I team up with a PUG group, and some missions are too hard to do yourself. I have never logged out yet and was able to contribute to the team - had some close calls though.

Otherwise, I leveled up doing missions and quests in Nightfall and factions (by myself no help from anyone), and am at Arborstone right now. Thats going to be a hard one. I have done some of the Kilroy stuff too, but it's just to darn boring to level that way. Frankly its kind of exciting to run quests/missions and figure out ways not to get killed.

But great fun too. It's just a different way playing.

I don't believe anyone reached the LS title without help from others. But when I get my title I can say I earned it.

Just make sure you get your heroes as soon as you can. It doesn't hurt to ask for help in towns when you need help - just mention you are on a survivor track. I have helped other survivors. There are many of us earning our titles the hard way

Jae Onasi · Sep 10, 2008, 06:29 AM // 06:29

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

WURMS. WURMS. WURMS. WOOT.
There is another WURM LS out there. kewl.

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

As i suspected, a RANGED attacker. Yes doing ranged you can do this with started armor or no armor as you will take 0 damage cause the Snow Wurms are MEELE ONLY. Yes the can not kill you.

They can kill you if you accidentally stray too close and don't know where they pop up and you don't get out of the way fast enough. I found it helpful to do a couple runs with another character to get that down. I would recommend any survivor max out their armor as soon as possible because you need to stay alive long enough to get to EotN.

I was lucky enough that at an early level someone in my guild happened to be going to the Consulate docks and they ferried me so I could get max armor. I bought the highest armor I could and put survivor runes on everything--that's important for getting through at least the first 10 levels, and beneficial the rest of the way. I've added another couple hundred thousand xp on that character since making LS because I had the hit points to do it in some tricky spots.

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

The drops are better in hard mode than in normal mode. You might get lucky to get a gold with the forget me not inscription in it and sell that for 20K.

I would tend to agree. The whites, blues, and grapes sell pretty well, and the golds frequently had at least 1 max mod on it, or near max that were well worth salvaging. I have a ton of inscriptions sitting in storage right now waiting to be used by other characters.

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Although I am not quite sure why Jae Onasi was using Olias in tha party. Maybe for faster kills. I will try this tonight to see if the XP is changed or not.

I used Olias for minions to keep the wurms from burrowing which allowed for faster kills. I probably could have tried a melee hero and accomplished the same thing. In solo mode it took me about 12 minutes or so to complete a run. With Olias it was about 3.5 or so. It cut my xp in half per run with Olias in the party, but the xp per hour was greater.

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

Just a though. This would also be a KILLA of a way to lvl the Heor's up that I have from Nightfal..Hummm???

Probably. XP is XP. I leveled my ranger's pet doing the runs to 20, and evolved it to hearty.

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

My wife has this game and she is getting to lvl 10 in preseaing and then I am running her to the Station so that she can lvl her Survivor and get the title. It is a Necro toon that she has with Mesmer as secondary. She only has NM so she should do OK if she does not get too bored. I have started another one as well and I will use it to farm the Snow Wurms. I want to try and get 10 Million Xp without a death.

EotN and Factions are relatively quick enough to finish to get to hard mode--might be worth it to do those with another character to unlock HM. NM will take quite a bit longer to get to LS, but certainly doable, if she doesn't mind the boredom.

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

I will check to see what scroll I used. I think it was the 5 minute Boss one. 175% for 594 XP solo per kill in HM. or 175xp per kill in Normal mode. I will check

I used the slayer's insight which gives 250% for 5 minutes and ends if you don't kill a boss in that time. I'd have a whole lot more gold in storage if I hadn't used the scrolls, but I'd probably still be killing wurms, too.

I couldn't do it fast enough in solo mode to beat the 5 minute mark, but I could easily with Olias in the party.

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Originally Posted by Quaker

But, whatever floats yer boat, I guess.

Some would call it 'maximum utilization of available resources'. I'm not going to knock someone for doing HFFF or Kilroy, nor am I going to get upset if someone feels strongly that the only way to earn the title is through missions/capping skills. Everyone approaches this game and this title a little differently, and each person has to determine what their own stance is on the method(s) for achieving this title. If we're enjoying playing the game, however, that's what counts.

Destro Maniak · Sep 10, 2008, 09:53 AM // 09:53

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Originally Posted by Sindy

If you are careful, of course. It is very possible to get to either without dying. Boxing should be easier to get to since the heroes can help out a lot and there aren't any "missions" to get in the way. I know there are runners who can help you get to HFFF, but again, it isn't impossible to do it yourself.

DONT BOX if you lose connection you will be dead
and its no joke
you wouldnt want to reconnect and see 1 death when you have 1336k xp?

HFFF is the FASTEST and SECURIEST WAY

Nosveratau · Sep 10, 2008, 09:57 AM // 09:57

Hey all

Thanks for all the replys, I nearly blew it last night I henched Zen Daijun and nearly died at the last point of the mission was down to 5 health, ouch. I have actually found I am enjoying the game much better with the fear of dying, lol. I am going to try and get survivor on my own merit instead of the leeching way.

Cheers

Nos

The Meth · Sep 10, 2008, 01:03 PM // 13:03

Real players get Legendary Survivor doing HM DoA runs in balanced groups. With pugs.

Nosveratau · Sep 10, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Hi

Thanks for the reply, but I am only at the third mission on the factions campaign, nevermind completing Nightfall, so I have got a long way of surviving before I can think about DoA especially since I do not belong to a guild and play the game using only henchmen. If I survive that long them I will look into the DoA though, but knowing my play skills I will probably die long before that :-) I have just realised that completing all 3 campaigns with Masters / Bonus and EOTN on Normal mode will only get me around 1/8th of the exp needed, damn I have a long way to go.

Cheers

Nos

sixofone · Sep 10, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Going for Survivor also teaches you a lot about the game!

I really learned how to start pulling properly, and when to kite and when to bail if things are going south, once death meant something more than a DP.

r1 is easy to get. r2 a little tougher, doing it without farming or boxing. r3 is still an accomplishment if you get it by doing missions and quests and skill-capping. Good luck to you!

Jae Onasi · Sep 10, 2008, 04:25 PM // 16:25

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Originally Posted by Nosveratau

Hi

Thanks for the reply, but I am only at the third mission on the factions campaign, nevermind completing Nightfall, so I have got a long way of surviving before I can think about DoA
Nos

I think The Meth was joking.

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Originally Posted by sixofone

Going for Survivor also teaches you a lot about the game!

I totally agree. There've been a couple times where I've done my Brave Sir Robin imitation instead of just dying, but mostly I've learned how to pull and manage my heroes more effectively, put together better skill bars, and so forth.

Sep 08, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17	#1
Nosveratau Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2008	Legendary Survivor Hi All When I first created my Guildwars character I did not really know about titles and stuff, so I have decided to create a new character to muck around with for titles. After reading some posts and guides it seems legendary survivor is the best first title to get. After reading posts it seems the two best ways to gain the exp needed for this title is either the boxing in EOTN or Kuzrik Hero Faction farming, so good stuff there, my question is what about getting my character to this point, if I am careful can getting to this point with Henchmen (New Ranger/Monk Factions Character) work, especially for the missions or even the run to the above areas, or is it advisable to get help for the missions and running to outposts? Cheers Nos

Sep 09, 2008, 02:11 PM // 14:11	#12
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	WURMS. WURMS. WURMS. WOOT. There is another WURM LS out there. kewl. I did this with my War just after the release of GE:WN. It is the BEST way to get the title with almost no chance of death. I will read what the poster above says then edit here. Just so excited to see another Wurm man. As i suspected, a RANGED attacker. Yes doing ranged you can do this with started armor or no armor as you will take 0 damage cause the Snow Wurms are MEELE ONLY. Yes the can not kill you. I do like the way Jae Onasi describes the hard mode deaths. There are 13 Snow Wurms to kill in Normal Mode and only 10 In Hard Mode. The drops are better in hard mode than in normal mode. You might get lucky to get a gold with the forget me not inscription in it and sell that for 20K. Although I am not quite sure why Jae Onasi was using Olias in tha party. Maybe for faster kills. I will try this tonight to see if the XP is changed or not. Just a though. This would also be a KILLA of a way to lvl the Heor's up that I have from Nightfal..Hummm??? My wife has this game and she is getting to lvl 10 in preseaing and then I am running her to the Station so that she can lvl her Survivor and get the title. It is a Necro toon that she has with Mesmer as secondary. She only has NM so she should do OK if she does not get too bored. I have started another one as well and I will use it to farm the Snow Wurms. I want to try and get 10 Million Xp without a death. I will check to see what scroll I used. I think it was the 5 minute Boss one. 175% for 594 XP solo per kill in HM. or 175xp per kill in Normal mode. I will check Last edited by imnotyourmother; Sep 09, 2008 at 02:23 PM // 14:23..

Sep 08, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24	#2
Sindy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2007 Profession: E/	If you are careful, of course. It is very possible to get to either without dying. Boxing should be easier to get to since the heroes can help out a lot and there aren't any "missions" to get in the way. I know there are runners who can help you get to HFFF, but again, it isn't impossible to do it yourself.

Sep 08, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13	#4
Ghengis Kwell Baby Maker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Guild: Sent Fromhell Profession: D/W	I think Sindy was referring to the fact the Heros help you get TO the Boxing NOT to help with it

Sep 08, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47	#5
unkleanone Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: TN Guild: Semi Automatic Bananas [SEMI] Profession: R/Mo	they might help get to it but you'll still have to get to level 10 without dying on your own before you can make it to EoTN I highly recommend getting guild members to help you get to lutgardis to do hfff. Let them know that your a survivor and what not and be ready to exit the game if your about to die at any point int he missions leading up to lutgardis.

Sep 08, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20	#7
Anon-e-mouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: @ Home Guild: League Of Friends [LOF] Profession: R/Mo	Become one with the imp.. the imp is your friend.

Sep 08, 2008, 05:29 PM // 17:29	#8
Flightmare Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NL Guild: Infinite Omega Negatives Profession: N/	I think it should be pretty good do-able with henchies and heroes. If you're not sure about some parts of the game, ask some thrustworthy friends and explain you are going for survivor.

Sep 08, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53	#9
Jae Onasi Frost Gate Guardian --> Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Lost Haven Profession: E/Mo	I just got Legendary last month by farming the 10 wurms just ouside Boreal station n NM until I got to lvl 20, and then HM after that. I ran a poison arrow/pet build. I farmed it with Olias with a mixed minion-life stealing build and could get the run down to about 3.5 minutes. It's pretty low risk because as a ranger you're attacking at range and the wurms there have no ranged attacks. I used XP scrolls on a lot of runs, a slayer's insight scroll will mean you get 4620 xp every run with Olias in the party. That costs a lot, but the time trade-off was worth it for me. You cannot go across either of the bridges there--one bridge has aloe pop-ups that kill fast (learned that the hard way with another would-be survivor), and if you go across the bridge to the other 3 wurms, pinesols patrol that area in HM. This is neither the cheapest nor the fastest route. HFFF is probably faster and you'll gain gold if you're not burning through xp scrolls. However, I don't have a reliable enough connection to do Killroy's punch-out, and I wanted to earn the xp myself (nothing against leechers, it just wasn't what I wanted to do), so this was a good alternative. If you do it without xp scrolls, you'll make money every run on the drops. Lockpicks, golds, map pieces, and warrior tomes drop periodically. A chest spawns nearly every run, so you'll be able to work on treasure hunter, wisdom, and unlucky titles at the same time if you don't mind spending a ton of money on breaking lockpicks. I run missions with guild members or H/H. I never use PUG's since the coordination is not guaranteed, and some ornery soul might think it's funny to let you die. If I H/H, I have a level 20 monk in my first hero slot, and I have him hot-keyed to use protective spirit and a healing spell on me in tough spots. My ranger has all survivor insignia, a superior vigor rune, and minor ranger runes appropriate runes for my profession. I carry a sundering longbow of fortitude, and I make sure to use my Norn title, which gives a hp boost, in Norn territory. It means my energy pool isn't fabulous, but it's kept me alive in a couple tight spots. If my connection is laggy or I'm tired, I play another non-survivor character. It's too easy to make a fatal maistake when tired, and lagging out in the middle of battle can be death. Good luck to everyone working on this title.

Sep 08, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05	#10
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	if you have the money, pay for a survivor run, this will get you a runner that does all the missions+quests that is required to bring you to Lutgardis for HFFF. After you have done this and gotten to lvl 10 or maybe even higher, you should go over to the EotN and get to boxing from there bring scrolls and do again and again and soon(ya right) youll be legendary survivor.

Sep 08, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#11
Sword Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2006 Profession: Mo/	definatly go HFFF quick and easy once u get there and ull get a few tiers towards your kurzick title as well as some decent spending money

Sep 10, 2008, 09:57 AM // 09:57	#16
Nosveratau Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2008	Hey all Thanks for all the replys, I nearly blew it last night I henched Zen Daijun and nearly died at the last point of the mission was down to 5 health, ouch. I have actually found I am enjoying the game much better with the fear of dying, lol. I am going to try and get survivor on my own merit instead of the leeching way. Cheers Nos

Sep 10, 2008, 01:03 PM // 13:03	#17
The Meth Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2007 Profession: R/	Real players get Legendary Survivor doing HM DoA runs in balanced groups. With pugs.

Sep 10, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28	#18
Nosveratau Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2008	Hi Thanks for the reply, but I am only at the third mission on the factions campaign, nevermind completing Nightfall, so I have got a long way of surviving before I can think about DoA especially since I do not belong to a guild and play the game using only henchmen. If I survive that long them I will look into the DoA though, but knowing my play skills I will probably die long before that :-) I have just realised that completing all 3 campaigns with Masters / Bonus and EOTN on Normal mode will only get me around 1/8th of the exp needed, damn I have a long way to go. Cheers Nos

Sep 10, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06	#19
sixofone Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2007 Profession: P/	Going for Survivor also teaches you a lot about the game! I really learned how to start pulling properly, and when to kite and when to bail if things are going south, once death meant something more than a DP. r1 is easy to get. r2 a little tougher, doing it without farming or boxing. r3 is still an accomplishment if you get it by doing missions and quests and skill-capping. Good luck to you!